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it's the Pepuls Republik of Nu Jerzee! That's the problem.
The cop in one video clip said that guns were legal, but having that many guns and that much ammo in the same place had to have criminal involvement. This will be one of the first JBTs through your door, bet on it.
"It's not illegal to possess guns. It's not illegal to dig a hole in your property. But there's odd behavior here that makes us have reason to believe there's illegal activity."
Well, certainly, if you BELIEVE there's illegal activity, by all means, take all of the guy's shit. All that matters is what Nanny thinks, not what the citizen actually does.
And from what I've read, the aggravated assault on the police is bullshit. He was HOLDING the gun. IN HIS OWN HOME! I didn't read anything saying he pointed it at officers.
Guilty until proven innocent...
He had an unlawful item. Something that could hurt people. It was against the law. The law is the law. Thank goodness police are out there to keep us safe from lawbreakers such as this man.
It's a Philly paper and a new Joisy event.
Philly and Jersey are on a par with their actions about guns.
NOTICE the neighbors comments...Thats important. We will see more statements like those as these things pop up.
Notice the attitude about largish quantities of guns and ammo...
Like saying he's guilty of something, but we don't know what yet...
The man is just culling the herd...Taking the easy ones off the edges right now, but we'll see more of the same sooner than later...The cops did know to search for guns and they found a bunker? the right questions are, How and Why...
Anonymous 11:03..Who will keep us safe from the cops? I know some seriously dirty Mofo's with badges..I hope you get to meet one some day...
Speaking about Jersey, Did ya'll catch the one sometime ago where they arrested a civil war re-enactor who tarped a cannon in a pickup truck with carrying concealed...
Dragon, if you don't do anything wrong, you don't have to be afraid of the police. Police only arrest lawbreakers. They took an oath to protect you.
Anonymous 11:34... I don't know where you live, but it's not near me....I've had several bad experiences with some cops...around here, they's mostly corrupt or worse...around here we know what they mean by Wack-n-stack... I have been profiled and I have been given more than a few "wood Shampoo's"...I called some army buddies and We had a few 3 am conversations with some folks...Now they point me out to rookies and I no longer get bothered...They get no donuts from me....When I carry, without permit, I carry open and fully loaded...it's allowed here...around here we have no drive byes. We SHOOT BACK. Then we call the news and then the cops and even call the meat wagon.
surprisingly there is very little crime in our corner of the county.
Dragon, a few bad apples. There's nothing about getting a shiny badge and power that changes you. The fact that you have a badge and a gun, and swore an oath means that you have more rights than the general populace. You can do things that would get other people arrested. But that's OK, because they're police officers. They need a little slack.
There's nothing about getting coercive power that makes ordinary people more prone to abuse people. Police deserve your respect. You don't hate law and order, do you? Without the thin blue line, we'd all be breaking into our next door neighbor's house. The fact that cops are 15 minutes away from arriving to stop you is the only thing that keeps the great majority of us from performing burglaries that only take 5 minutes.
Remember that swarm of police officers that pulled those men out of the cars in, where was it. Philadelphia? Baltimore? They all ran in spontaneously, held them down and beat them and kicked them. A few bad apples that happened to be in one area at the same time. What a fluke!
"Marge Pfrommer, deputy mayor of Franklin Township, ...
"Sometimes you can't know what's going on with residents and what they have behind closed doors," she said."
I wonder if someone explained to the deputy mayor that they made this thing called the bill of rights. She may want to take a look at the fourth amendment.
11:03, 11:43 don't be instigating the dragon. oaths don't seem to mean much to people anymore.
just because they make a law about it, doesn't make it right or wrong. just wait. some activity which you favor will be made unlawful, then you'll be screaming about the injustice of it all.
"just because they make a law about it, doesn't make it right or wrong."
What? Once the government declares something illegal, it's immoral to do it. This is a democracy now. 51% of the population get to say what is right and wrong. Are you saying you have the right to do whatever you want, as long as you don't hurt someone?
If the government says you can't do it, there's no injustice. If you don't like it, you can vote to change it. That's what's so great about America. It's nothing like this in Europe, where their parliaments don't really care what the people say, because the corporate taxpayer-beneficiaries run the show. This isn't the case in America, thank goodness. Americans are better than that.
6:49 you're warped. you can't be serious. wildflower, is that you?
fifty percent,plus one, doesn't get a dictatorship. america, the united states thereof, is a constitutional representative republic. it is not now, nor has it ever been a democracy. read the constitution, (while you still can), rights do not come from the constitution. JUSTICE is not just whatever the government says. justice is revealed TRUTH from the DEITY, whom we commonly refer to as "GOD". the non establishment clause of amendment 1, does not negate, nor did it remove: "establish justice", from the preamble.
it is not immoral to resist unjust, or unconstitutional laws.
Irishdutchuncle,
It's not immoral to resist unjust laws? Who are you to say if something is unjust, when the person you voted for helps pass a law? Are you saying congress doesn't represent you? The president and the congress took oaths to uphold the Constitution, and they're doing a great job upholding the Constitution, otherwise people wouldn't keep voting them in.
you don't know who i voted for.
and who am i to say...? i'm a citizen, one twelth of a jury, and was created your equal. i know right from wrong. i know that right and wrong are an absolute revealed truth which doesn't change with the times, or the whims of the electorate. you're the one who brought up MORALITY, (by invoking it's opposite) which is inseperable from justice, and truth. and as i previously stated, oaths don't seem to mean much to people (mostly liberals) anymore. congress may only exercise those powers granted it, by the constitution.
my representative in congress is the daughter of a holocaust survivor. in addition to mere genocide the NATIONAL SOCIALISTS conducted inhuman medical experiments on many of their victims. so my representative co sponsors every pro-abortion, pro embryonic stem-cell research, and gun-control bill which comes along.
it is obvious that she is a LIBERAL (sicko)FIRST. her office pays no attention to my concerns when i've called to voice them. she doesn't represent me or close to half of her gerrymand..er, i mean district.
instead of baiting me, since you're so intellectually superior, why don't you offer some real solutions instead of this entertainment?
Irishdutch,
I'm glad to see independent thought. Even better, individualism. Thinking outside the State. It is excellent to hear people openly proclaim that they are bound only by the laws of God, and are only morally bound by the laws of men when such laws overlap God's laws.
Your representative doesn't represent you, you are absolutely right. 90% of Americans are not represented by "their representatives." But you can be sure that 100% of representatives represent themselves.
What solution would I offer? Don't vote. Ever. Politicians use regular people to get into power, then they ignore them. Except the lobbyists, of course, because some pigs are more equal than others.
Voting achieves a singularized aggregate of the average person. The only difference is that this average Joe suddenly has a whole lot more power than the average Joe. Nobody knows how to run your life better than you. Yet sadly, people demand to be pushed around by politicians. And they demand that politicians push around their neighbors. I'm not at all into that. I have no right to tell you how to live. I do have a right to defend myself or another if another person were to initiate aggression against me or my neighbor. I do not have the right to take money from you by force on my own. So why do I get to choose choose a politician who does the same thing? A politician who takes money from you by force or the threat of force. Do I have such a right? Does anyone have such a right? I propose that a group of individuals has no right to do what an individual may not do.
That is my solution. Stop playing the political game, because it is aggressively (as opposed to defensively) violent by nature. only the politicians and their lobbyist cronies win. Our property and liberties invariably lose.
You may say, "Haw! That's not a solution. That's about as much a solution as everyone living by the Golden Rule. A nice thought, but nobody does it." Indeed.
I guarantee you, sir, that until the great majority of individuals refrain from inititating aggression against their neighbors by voting and participating in the violence of the State, and start acting according to the Golden Rule, that liberties will be violated and innocent lives will continue to be destroyed by people who have, as always, the best of intentions.
Put the bong down and get a glimpse of real life.
a-ha! so, there's a method to your madness. i agree with you, 11:49 mostly. but not voting, is out of the question for me. also i'm not a true libertarian. live, and let live is an ideal, which should only be abrogated to provide for the common defense, in a true, dire emergency.
Irish, voting is like playing at the casino and expecting to come out the winner in the long run. It is, as Stefan Molyneux says, like marrying an abusive spouse and expecting that he/she is going to change. You're just going to get slapped around. Choosing someone to slap me around is not in the realm of what I would call "sane." Choosing someone to slap other people around is egregious.
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