Wednesday, March 17, 2010

The American Dream 2: Opting Out

I intended this to be one post but it got pretty long and I realized that to really hit my main points it was going to have to get broken up. Figured this was the best route so I pushed my other plans to the right a day.

I have been accused of being heartless or inexperienced or otherwise somehow not well informed on this topic. I have said more or less that people are where they are because of choices they made. That elicited a series of unhappy comments. Here is my take on the whole thing. First of all I believe in personal responsibility. Aside from truly freak accidents and blind dumb luck pretty much everything that happens in our lives is a result of some choice or another.

However it seems that maybe some folks see this position of mine as an attack against them or a view on them as an individual. That is not the case. I have a solid measure of respect for people who instead of complaining about this or that come right out and say "I made a mistake and am living with the consequences". Good people can and do often make poor choices. Maybe it is just that my mind is compartmentalized but I can really empathize with someones tough situation without trying to shift blame for it away from them. I can feel bad for someone in a rough spot while completely recognizing they put themselves in that spot. 

As I talked about in length yesterday the American Dream is getting harder to achieve. Its price has gone up and the earning power of a lot of folks has gone down. No point in excessively rehashing, read yesterdays post if you need to catch up.


I see two broad reasons people opt out of the American Dream. The first is that they (at least right now) just plain can not afford it. The second is that they want to take another path. We will talk about them in order.

Some folks just plain can't afford the "American Dream". They may have the exact same job their father had (unlikely but lets go with it) however they make less money and stuff costs more. There is a lot of pressure to drive this and live here, etc. It is a hard decision to do something else, like what you can really afford. One of the downsides of the relatively recently passed insane credit bubble was that it was very easy for people to borrow their way into the American Dream. Then their adjustable rate mortgages adjusted or they got cut from 40 hours a week to 35 and their whole house of cards falls down.

Some people do not want the American Dream, at least not all of it or right now. They might just like being foot loose and fancy free preferring to live in a motor home instead of a 3 bedroom ranch. Maybe they realize that to them it is worth downsizing their expenses in order to be able to work less or take a few months every year off. Maybe they are just super cheap and would rather have cash in the bank then wood floors in the dining room.

To a certain degree Wifey and I fall into this category. We like most parts of the American Dream but are going to do it on a time line we are comfortable with. One thing about my rough age group (call it 23-33) we seem to expect to walk into a darn near ready made American Dream like a week after we get even a mediocre job. It is sometimes possible to do it that way these days (more so 3 or so years ago) with the ready available credit to anyone close to worthy.

Personally Wifey and I were not comfortable with that format. The idea of having a solid emergency fund and little or no debt suits us. We are living pretty modestly now in order to be able to do well and still be well within our means later. It might be a pretty solid idea for someone like our friend 5:59 to bite the bullet and live in a cheap little apartment for two years to pay off those student loans and otherwise shore up their financial foundation. Like many things in life the right answer is not the easy one.

 We would love to own a nice home and drive a couple of solidly decent cars. However right now we can not pay for them in a fashion that is comfortable for us. We have very different opinions on how we should spend, save and borrow than most other folks. When we got married we lived in an RV for a few months. Lots of other folks would have gotten a nice apartment or even rented a house. We had some interesting times in the RV and Trailer Park and saved up some money. Folks at work messed with me a bit until I mentioned that our total housing expenses were $300. In hindsight I should have gotten a travel trailer and lived in it through college. In Alabama we chose a fairly modest apartment in order to save money.

I would love to drive a newish Toyota FJ Cruiser and Wifey would enjoy a nice little BMW. To be honest we could have these things this weekend. However we really do not want a car loan (let alone 2!) and thus we have one beat up old car. Instead of having 2 car loans eat up our income we chose to save up for a modest second car. Also by living well below our means we are able to put money towards stuff we think is worthwhile. Two car loans would make it impossible to establish an emergency fund, save for the future or otherwise get ahead.

In a few years we will buy a house. It will likely be a pretty modest fixer upper type place. A wood stove for sure and ideally a basement but nothing too amazing. I would rather fix up a place a bit than pay for a perfect place. We will come at home ownership a bit later than a lot of my peers. After all until you are a home owner you haven't made it. Too many people over the last few years jumped into something they could barely afford if  they got a normal paycheck and nothing bad happened without even enough savings to get some basic repair on their car. Between their ARM mortgages adjusting or a crazy event like having a few slow weeks at work and these folks can have real issues. Personally I would rather have a bit more modest home, slightly later in life but with a solid emergency fund and with a home we can genuinely afford during a bad month when everything goes wrong.

I strongly encourage you to think long and hard. First think about what you can realistically afford and then think about what your priorities are. Remember, no matter how much someone else says you need to drive this or live here unless they are going to pay for it they don't get a vote. It is fine to want this and that and the other thing, most of us do. However you have to look at what you can afford and choose. Also to make things even more complicated you need to balance how much of a lifestyle you want to make yourself be able to afford. A guy who lives a lifestyle, even the American Dream that requires him to work 70 hours a week at a job he hates might just be happier with a smaller house, or even a trailer, and a more normal job that is not so stressful.

We all face a variety of different kinds of pressure. This pressure both real and perceived can couple together with our own  desires and be a recipe for disaster. People back themselves into a circle where they  have to have that house filled with those electronics in that neighborhood with those cars out front. They get all this stuff which they can't afford, seeing it as the only option and then don't understand how things are so bad. I do not have a great answer for this. Just like anything else your choices are your own and others do not pay the price for them. The same way that a friend who encourages you to do shots with them on a work night when they have the next day off is not going to feel your hangover the next day at work. People might cheer you on or encourage you to do something or another but at the end of the day your choices, good or bad are your own.

11 comments:

PioneerPreppy said...

30, 40, 50 or more years ago I would say you have a point and an individual's choices meant alot.

Since the late 1980's after affirmative action, unfair family courts and other biased legislation like say community re-infestment I can no longer agree with you.

When a simple divorce can destroy a man financially, when laws are produced that place them at the bottom or last choice because of someone else's perceived wealth who came before them a single man's choice(s) no longer seems to be the only answer for their failure.

There are way to many good men being crushed under the weight of these Societal Choices to blame it on each one's personal choices.

Marlan at RV52 said...

Your opting out seems pretty normal. Zig Ziglar say most people just want to be happy which is mostly internally generated. Looks like you are simply living within your means and choosing to be happy with it. Thats admirable.

theotherryan said...

PioneerPreppy, I never said that life is fair or that some folks don't have it harder than others. People are born unhealthy or with minimal intelligence or from real dysfunctional family situations.

Also divorce stems from a whole slew of individual choices.

Mayberry said...

TOR, let me put it to you this way.... You get a job. A good one (pay-wise). Most folks live a reasonable distance from their work (around here anyways), so they buy a home (because it's beaten into our heads that renting is throwing our money away. **Also, mortgage payments tend to be CHEAPER than rent). Homes in the area demand a premium price, because the economy is hummin' right along (of course, you could have bought a former meth lab in a crime-ridden, gang infested neighborhood on the cheap, your choice, right?). Then SHTF....

You get canned, laid off, company closes, hit by a truck, cancer, whatever... Plus, the economy goes in the crapper (any of this starting to sound familiar?). Things were great, bills were paid, home appreciating as they have since time immemorial....

Suddenly you're without income. But hey, you were smart, and stashed a decent chunk o' money, say $15,000 or so. Cool, you got time, bills still paid, find a new job. But there ain't any jobs nearby, and not many anywhere else. The mortgage is now upside-down because the crash wiped out 40% of the value, and ALL your equity. The bills are eating that $15,000 in a frightening hurry. You sell off your toys, excess junk, even a valuable heirloom or two to keep your head afloat, all while wishing "Damn I shoulda seen this coming in my crystal ball. Oh wait, I ain't got a crystal ball"....

And now you're stuck with a house you can't sell, in a place with no decent work, through no fault of your own. Toss in one or two things that Pioneer Preppy said up there, and you're completely screwed.

TOR, sometimes, a LOT of times, it just comes down to "shit happens". There are so many things beyond our control, and the rest seems to be spinning out of control...

Anonymous said...

Good points, Marian at RV52. I think TOR should expand on this topic and do a blog post on what truly makes people happy. (hint, hint) Is it family, friends, religion, learning, serving one's country, freedom, enjoying the outdoors, making art, a sense of accomplishment at the range, work/volunteering, etc.? Consumer crap is great and somewhat necessary, but at the end of the day it's probably not going to make you deeply happy long term which is why many people have opted out of the typical American Dream (a.k.a. conspicuous consumption).


Sam, in the trailer park.....happy!

BTW, another super post TOR

Anonymous said...

Spot on in my opinion, TOR. All these folks who got bombed in the dot-com and real estate busts didn't see this coming? Really? They weren't looking.

Keep your hand on your wallet thusly:
Work hard at keeping yourself and your family fit and healthy.
Live modestly and well within your income.
Save up a reasonable emergency fund, and then save up another one.

Get out of debt, and stay out.
Keep your job skills ahead of current requirements.
Strive to make yourself the "go to" guy at work, the one who is always there, always working hard, and always has the right answers, or knows where to get them.
Network with your peers, customers, bosses, everybody else you can think of, continuously, because knowledge is power.
Watch your personal situations closely. Even RELENTLESSLY. All of them. Church, family, job, friends & associates, ALL of them.
"Be all you can be" in all these relationships.

You can't do a darn thing to prevent massive disruptions. But, if you are right with God and have "kept your hand on your wallet" so to speak, you'll generally land on your feet, and several giant steps ahead of everybody else at that.

H

theotherryan said...

Mayberry, I do believe some people go through a charmed life. You know the guy or gal who is just ridiculously good looking, smart and nice. They stay trim no matter what they eat or drink. They coast through school and get a great job. Nothing bad ever seems to happen to them. Then there are people who through know fault of their own can't seem to catch a break. This is the guy who gets out of the hospital after beating brain cancer and a truck hops onto the sidewalk and runs them over.

A few folks live charmed lives and a few others seem to only have bad luck. The rest of us are somewhere in the middle. It could be argued that how often bad things happen to us is based on our choices but lets even skip that. Lets just say that pretty much everybody has a few personal/ financial SHTF's in their life.

From seeing what happens with friends/ family/ neighbors I can not help but observe that people who live well below their means, avoid debt and save religiously tend to come out of life's trials and tribulations a lot better off than those who live right up to or above their means, and or have excessive debt and save little to nothing.

Did it MY way said...

Over Population, sending jobs to China,wages at all time low,and our own stupidy had something to do with it.
What were we thinking?

See Ya.

theotherryan said...

Did It My Way, I don't know how we got where we are. I don't think that we could have possibly held the rather lucky and temporary position we held after WWII. However we could probably have managed things a bit better. Ironically the same unions thatget workers doing jobs semi trained monkeys could do $34 an hour can't understand why companies choose to move their factories to cheaper places.

I am going to have to work harder and smarter than my parents and make few if any mistakes to do as well or better than them. I don't have a clue what it will be like for my kid.

Chris said...

Marriage is a contract. Unless you include a good pre-nup then you may feel abused in a divorce. Look at wealthy business people who marry -- I'm pretty sure that they use pre-nups. You might argue that they only are so calculating and logical because they are wealthy and need to protect their wealth, but I would argue that they are wealthy in the first place because they can think analytically and not just react emotionally.

Likewise, Mayberry, many people think a house is an asset. A house is just a place to live, and the debt attached to it has some favorable tax treatment. Being a military brat I saw my parents go through the housing process several times going up (buy or rent...) and I've done it myself several times as well. This is just like the marriage/divorce thing -- people who react to the situation emotionally don't do as well as people who can think analytically and carefully weigh consequences while simultaneously being brave enough to seize opportunities.

Being able to properly assess risk and act accordingly is hard but extremely important. Our schools and families such at teaching this; most people can't even handle basic probability 101 (if you don't believe me, ask a few folks this question:

John owns his own home. John is 90% likely to keep his job. If he keeps his job, there's a 25% that his company will make him move in the next three years and he'll have to figure out what to do with his home. On the other hand, if he loses his job then his emergency fund will be depleted in six months and then he won't be able to pay the mortgage. There's a 65% that he gets a new job within six months, though. Additionally, due to market fluctuations, over the next three years there's a 40% that the home appreciates in value significantly, a 30% that its value remains about the same, and a 30% that it will depreciate significantly. Finally, ever year there is a 0.5% that the home will require a major unexpected repair that will significantly strain John's budget, causing him to miss a mortgage payment. How likely is John to get into trouble with his house?"

The percentage chance that John will fall behind on his mortgage or go upside down and be forced to sell can be easily figured, but most people will not be able to accurately work it out using an analytical method.

www.WorldInfoCD.com said...

TOR - I think you are my long lost twin brother after reading this post. Often I talk to co-workers and friends saying the same kind of things.

Keep the posts coming!!!

Rourke
WorldInfoCD.com