Tuesday, June 8, 2010

LIberals and Economics

I read an article today in the Wall Street Journal about a study done regarding how well people from various political parties understand basic economic principles. The study seemed somewhat biased, but has a fairly accurate, and predictable outcome. By biased, I mean it uses a couple liberal buzz words, and does an agree or disagree format, rather than a right or wrong format.

So thoughts,

Liberals aren't out to destroy the economy. Rather, they are trying to create controls. Pure capitalistic economies are boom (when actors are following their rational self interest) and bust (when actors are acting irrationally). This, depending on the foresight of the actors to understand at the time they are acting what is rational and irrational, leads to overall higher production and efficiency. However, that does not mean it is a perfect system. Markets aggressively self correct, and in a very real way, harm people. They distribute resources to those who are the best, and leave out the rest. Liberals want to control markets, harnessing the power of capitalism, while removing the negatives. This would lower the highs, but avoid some of the lows, while having a weakening effect on the overall economy.

Here is the problem. To achieve this purpose, they need two things. First, they need political clout. To get this, they have turned market economics into buzz words, and attached emotional ideas to them. The example is monopolies are bad. This is not accurate. Monopolies do some things well, such as using economies of scale to lower costs, and some things poorly, innovation. When Standard Oil was still a monopoly, the consumer price index was declining, and Rockefeller made more money after it was broken up than he did while it was a monopoly. However, understanding fairly complex micro economic principles, let alone macro economics (neither of which I claim to understand) is counter to the political economic goals of the Left. No one from either party wants the population to do overall economic analysis; they want us to stop with the reaction of either "unions are bad" or "monopolies are bad."

The second problem is the big one. To remove the negatives of capitalism, while keeping the positives, you need to understand what is the correct move at all times. Hindsight is 20/20, foresight is the bitch. The saving grace of capitalism is that if something is not working people are free to change. The down side is that when something is working, people are free to change. However, regulations minimize this effect. If the government decides you need to do something, and its a good choice, great! But if it a bad choice, you have to suffer while the political process figures that out (if they ever do).

In the end, its not about which works better; its what your goals are. Most modern liberals want economies to produce "fair" results, meaning similar pay for all. Purely capitalistic economies don't do that, they produce efficient markets. If the market isn't doing what you want it to do, than you consider it broken, and want to fix it. The problem is that while heavy regulation would mitigate some of the lows, it would also temper the highs, and remove the ability of people to adjust to changing circumstances. The free market is always working, whether we want it to, or not.

5 comments:

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Chris said...

I think one could argue that some regulation aimed at improving the amount of information available to all parties is helpful at improving market efficiency.

For example, if you've ever bought furniture or a mattress it is clear that the retailer benefits from privately held information (true invoice price) that is not held by the consumer. Additionally, the product lines are deliberately renamed (even though the product is identical or near identical) to prevent comparison shopping.

Some utilities and telecoms also go with the "confusopoly" business model, where they intentionally withhold information from consumers and are difficult or impossible to deal with short of legal action or involvement of a state AG/BBB.

Likewise, some consumers also mislead companies; insurance fraud immediately comes to mind, as does lying on loan applications and such.

I think one could argue that government can serve a useful role in ensuring that all parties have access to more accurate information about goods and services. Accurate, complete information helps markets behave more efficiently. Of course, whether government can do this effectively without perverting markets even further is debatable...

On your broader point, it is interesting how both sides have an interest in keeping the public rather ignorant. Seems rather contrary to Jefferson's Republican idealism.

Cheers,
Chris

Brad K. said...

Ryan,

A couple of thoughts.

1) Capitalist is someone with accumulated capital - a mover and shaker, a rich guy. Capital is the economic resource that permits secondary economic activities - such as futures markets, investing money, making loans to loaning and banking institutions. Capitalism is a form of government that recognizes capitalists as a significant factor in defining "govern well". That is, government acts to enable and support capitalists.

2) Free market economies are often confused with the concepts of capitalism and capitalists. They aren't. Free markets are markets operating with little or no government or other regulatory restrictions.

3) America rose from the colonies on the wealth and piracy/abuse and enablement of capitalists. Wanting to "redistribute the wealth" acts in large part to disable the part of the American Dream that built our nation in the first place.

4) I find a difference between a conservative social agenda, and conservative philosophy. I feel the Republican Party pursues a conservative social agenda, with little understanding or interest in conservatism. The classic definition of conservative is to perpetuate the status quo, to continue as is is today and has been. A liberal wants to "fix" things. A liberal believes that change is needed for a happy tomorrow, where a conservative believes change can only make unhappiness more likely.

The liberal social agenda focuses on regulating people's lives to make them "happy" (supportive voters). The conservative social agenda used to be pretty much capitalist, that the accumulation of wealth enables creation of opportunity to feed and employ people, and make a stronger and more secure nation. Today the GOP merely chases voters, else we would never have seen Dole and McCain survive their first primaries. I recall the economic principles Reagan pursued, "Trickle Down" economics - worked for decades. At the time opponents called it "Voodoo" economics, and cruel.

The strength of America has long been the back-and-forth exchanges of focus, from supporting capitalist interests to regulating excesses, from enabling the nation's citizens to caring for the masses (like today). With the GOP letting Democrats define the discussion, since Bush Senior, we have swung a very, very long ways away from the strengths of growth, of employment, of making and growing and innovating, from emphasis on character and honor and duty.

Anyway, that was my thought.

Graehaven said...

"Liberal" never meant "change" or "fix it" or "control it." It was the antithesis of that. The term "liberal" has been co-opted by the progressive movement of the late 19th century, and remained so since then.

Our fore-fathers, the founders, were liberal in the true sense of the word.

And, by the way, we have not been living in a free market for over a century, nor is true pure capitalism what we experience today. Thanks to government intervention, for decades, no one is allowed to fail and / or pay the ultimate consequences of greedy action. If the consequences were allowed to take place, greed would be regulated by the market.

Also, the blight of unions has created an entire subculture that not only destroyed any market, but will now destroy the country, thanks to corruption and government ties nationwide.

Ryan, J.D. said...

I was watching a TV show a couple days ago, and in it, the American rich guy was talking to the Chinese rich guy... Quote of the day "I am envious of you. In America, when you loose 20 billion dollars, they give you another 20 billion dollars. In China, they shoot you."