The newest Miranda ruling came down recently, and the media has been in a flutter. My personal favorite is the Time article entitled Has the Supreme Court Decimated Miranda? The short answer is no. In fact, the long answer is no. In summation, the answer is no.
Miranda is valid law (although it defines the "Alice in Wonderland logic" Time claims is utilized by Van Thompkins, and I would say is the worst decided case in SCOUS history, ignoring its cases about the Commerce Clause from about 1938-1990). We have to understand what Miranda says, and what it doesn't. First off, Miranda is not the case which states that a criminal defendant has a right to silence. What Miranda says is two fold. First, police must inform a criminal suspect of their right to remain silent (and the right to have an attorney) prior to any custodial interrogation. Second, if a criminal suspect asserts his right to either, all interrogation must cease. One of the interesting things about Miranda is that the case was about overly aggressive interrogation tactics, yet the Warren Court (as was their custom) did nothing to limit the aggressive interrogation tactics which could be used on suspects. Rather, they said that when the guy says stop, you have to stop.
To waive those rights, you must do so knowingly and voluntarily. Knowingly means, you have to know and understand the rights (hence the Miranda warnings), and voluntarily means there cannot be overt coercion (hence why we are not allowed to water board suspects because they won't talk to us). While I have not read this case, I will give the benefit of the doubt to Time as to the facts (although their legal analysis could not be further off).
"Thompkins was arrested in connection with a fatal shooting that occurred outside a mall in Michigan in 2000. The police questioned him for close to three hours, but he remained almost completely silent, offering just a few one-word answers. Toward the end, an officer asked Thompkins if he had prayed to God to forgive him for the shooting, and he said 'yes.'"
While there is no mention of if he was told his Miranda rights, I am going to assume he was. If he wasn't this would have never made it to the SCOUS. Because he was told his Miranda rights, when he replied, it was knowingly. The only coercion was that he was asked questions for close to three hours, which is not overt coercion, so this is voluntary. Did he waive his right to remain silent? Well, he didn't have to say something, and he did. That is a waiver. There is no violation of Miranda. This is an easy case.
Today, police and prosicutors LOVE Miranda. Under Miranda, once someone has been informed of their rights, its game on. Until they say stop, anything they say is fair game. Furthermore, this is not a conspiricy of the conservitave members of the Court. This opinion was written by Justice Kennedy. Justice Kennedy is one of the justices responcible for Planned Parenthood v. Casey, the current abortion case. *Side note: Roe v. Wade was practically overturned by Casey, which implimented a new standard for judging abortion cases, while affirming Roe in spirit.*
Kennedy is not a conservative, so why is it important for him to be labeled as one? Liberals have controlled the Court since the Switch in Time that Saved nine, in 1937. Liberals have since used the Court to push every "progressive" goal they have, but which they are unable to get the other branches to buy into. However, the make up of the Court has changed. The Court is currently a 4-4-1 with the liberals, Stevens, Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayor, in a tie with the conservatives, Scalia, Thomas, Roberts, and Alito. The tie breaker is Kennedy, the moderate, who is rather unpredictable. The reason liberals need this to be considered a conservative court is it motivates their base. Ask people if they think the SCOUS should have an equal number of people from both the major political parties on it, with someone in the center as a tie breaker, and they will say thats a good idea. Tell people that the evil conservatives control the Court (insert a reference to Bush), and you can panic them into doing what you tell them to.
In this case, the Court held that police can continue to question someone until they give an affirmative sign they want to remain silent (only answering a couple of questions from police is not an affirmative sign). The question is not how much did the majority want to chip away at Miranda; the question is how much did the minority want to expand it beyond the original ruling.
When the police question you, say, all together now. "I want an attorney." Don't just sit there... And if you choose to just sit there, actually remain silent. Its not hard people, if you are not going to say anything, don't fucking say anything.
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Your summation says it all. Keep your mouth shut or tell the police directly you want an attorney. There was an excellent (albeit lengthy) YouTube video of a Law professor and one of his 3rd year students (a 20 year police detective) discussing this very thing. The professor discussed how even minor and seemingly innocuous statements can get you into trouble since the police can lie to you, but you can't lie to the police. The student went on to discuss how the detectives will misguide you to get you to talk and tell them what they want to hear. I remember watching a movie and the detective says something to the effect of "people have a guilty conscience. They need to confess (Emperor has Goat Ears analogy) so they want to talk. Get them talking about anything, and slowly work your way to what you want to know.
This makes me uncomfortable.
In a situation where the police are practiced, and an innocently accused civilian is untrained and unpracticed - the burden should be more explicitly on the police.
Requiring the accused to hear "You have the right to remain silent" - and intuit he has to state "I invoke my Miranda rights under the Constitution and Fifth Amendment to not incriminate myself under your accusations. I will remain silent, and request and require that you honor my rights to remain silent." Get a word wrong, and "poof" - the SCOTUS backs the police, that you didn't "resist enough".
When I first read the ruling, I was appalled, and I still am. 50 years ago rape only counted if the woman could identify specific wounds - marks - that she inflicted on an attacker. Otherwise the police and courts presumed she merely changed her mind. She didn't fight - resist - enough to make the accusation of attack "believable".
I really don't like letting the law enforcement community lead us down this slippery slope of not "resisting" enough.
Roe was the worst decision, followed closely by Dred Scott.
I've often wondered whether the interrogations depicted on TV where people just spill the beans are common. Personally, I will not say a word if I'm ever in that situation. And I try to avoid getting into such a situation if at all possible....
Vinosaur- I saw, and love that video. It is the best summation of why you should use your right to shut up. For those who haven't seen it, here is the address,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik
It was posted on our blog here about 2 years ago, but might deserve a repost. Never, and I mean NEVER, talk to police for any reason.
Brad K.- The standard for asserting your right to remain silent and right to an attorney is minimal. Any statement indicating you wish to assert either of those rights is enough. The real issue is when the police have to stop questioning. The police, under Miranda, have to stop once the right is asserted. Therefore, once you say, "I don't have to say shit to you, and I aint gonna," the police cannot ask any more questions. Without a rule like that, there is not a logical point where the police have to stop questioning (how many questions that go unanswered is required before the police have to leave you alone? Does answering one question but not another indicate you are asserting your right?). Police can constitutionally ask questions, and an affirmative assertion not to answer questions is the logical cut off point.
Mayberry- I just got done working at a local DA's office for a year, and I can say, TV has it all wrong. The way they are wrong is that people spill their guts much more than is on tv. I arraigned a guy who would not stop admitting everything he did. Mind you, this is in open court, on the record. The judge told him about his right to remain silent and his right to an attorney 5 times, advised him to use those rights 3 times, told him point blank to shut up, threatened to hold him in contempt if he didn't stop admitting to crimes, and eventually had him removed. Needless to say, the guy plead out...
I think the Miranda Warning is just a sick joke. It starts with this: citizens have the right to remain silent. That's simply a fact, whether or not a cop reminds them of it. But it doesn't mean the same thing to law enforcement as it does to the common-sense thinking citizen. The moment the cop obtains confirmation that Joe Citizen "understands" his rights, then, instead of being immutable, those rights become opt-in and he's treated as though he opted out by default. Consider the fact that we're all conditioned to be cooperative, and automatically say "yes".
Reading a suspect his Miranda Warning effectively suspends his rights, just like the aggravating Windows confirmation box asking "Are you sure? [Cancel/OK] Joe must now nicely ask the cop to acknowledge his decision to remain silent, and the cop must be trusted to not "mishear" him or not hear him as they rush forward to an interrogation. Of course, to many Joes, it would seem that just clamming up is a clear indication of his choice, but not to law enforcement. They would have us believe that a suspect who wouldn't talk for 3 hours must simply have been silently composing his confession!
Too many people dismiss this entrapment argument because they think that only an idiot would fail to say "I'm not talking, bring me a lawyer". Well, that's not even the point. There are crazy and stupid people who are innocent. Once the crime has been pinned on a patsy, the police pin a medal on themselves, while a real criminal remains at large. I've seen the video Vinosaur refers to, and I'm amazed that I'm a free man today after the pitfalls I've unknowingly encountered with law enforcement.
Perhaps it is better to state "I don't understand these rights you refer to". It's not a lie. I'm not a lawyer, and I have no idea what extraordinary interpretation of my rights and responsibilities the police force has just adopted. I'm not going to essentially tell a cop that I don't need legal representation, and invite him to take a swipe at me before my lawyer arrives. If I find myself in an interrogation room, assuming I have the willpower to still remain silent, I may learn something about the evidence against me and the charges being considered.
All I do know, is that what I was taught is wrong. The Miranda Warning is no longer a protective measure. It's been perverted into a minefield.
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